Ulrike Buck:


you told me about these car videos with meteor in the background.


I have seen a lot of strange things that have been filmed from inside a car in russia. it seems to be a popular genre for youtube and life leaks.

often these videos are talking about rough nature and kind of rough people.


Aleksei Taruts:


the car window is some kind of analog screen

the car a quasi-save bubble that takes you out into unknown spheres / vast landscapes .. specially in a landscape country like yours




tinted car glass partly shades the reflection of the world, and partly hides the interior (or even all of it)


so the vehicle becomes smth similar to a masked hunters trap



cams just keep on recording all of it, all that is coming at them, meteorites are truly gift from god for them )


bc their true purpose is to deal with the boredom of a constantly moving landscape until smth loses control


o



i think they exist just for giving us the notion that when smth “loses control” - it is NOT exceptional compared to other life events ? that control might only be an illusion



Ulrike Buck

:

Security cameras record so something can happen, not to prevent it from happening. But it seems, if something is potentially recorded .. it belongs to the authorized possibilities of our lives.



o




I think what artist like to do, and I include myself, is to prefer something that does not belong to the authorized possibilities of the device.


I am interested in the genesis of techniques, that is why I like to look at basic and ancient human techniques and find my own autodidact way of remixing bits and pieces, without being too conscious about it.


The octopus is a mental and corporal allegory in my show. In my dialogue with the material, a kind of brain mapping by crafting.. while channeling the octopus


and i keep on ending up with cars somehow


check


o



Aleksei Taruts:



for some reason half of the electric sockets in my apartment just stopped working about 15 mins ago


before i opened your email


i had to rearrange an extension-cord network to keep the wifi running​


good that i dont have to choose between the wifi router or the fridge



an octopus has 3 hearts and can be a friend to a human, so they say




Ulrike Buck:



Yes!! They have personality and recognize specific humans. The octopus brain is spread out throughout his whole body. Imagining the perception of an octopus, he must have a sensory memory. Meeting an octopus is probably the closest you can get on planet earth to meet alien intelligence.


I plan to dismantle electric cables today, I want to use the copper wires to decorate my steel structures.



Yesterday I stumbled upon Donna Harraways new article on Tentacular Thinking. She names our earth age after tentacles, well..


http://www.e-flux.com/journal/75/67125/tentacular-thinking-anthropocene-capitalocene-chthulucene/


Later for dinner I ate an octopus while discussing trumps impact on climate change.


Then I woke up in the middle of the night dreaming I have a hole in my belly..



o





I am eating scrambled eggs in the speed train bistro, riding from Stuttgart to Berlin, looking at agricultural and industrial landscapes. Every meter is manmade infrastructure. This landscape looks like from the past, like from the last century. All these forests, crops, roads, canals, harbors, factories, power plants and wires feel redundant while I have the whole world at my fingertips. I am connected to anything.


Aleksei Taruts:


Maybe our fingertips do not belong to us anymore, instead they belong to the infrastructure which has become the primary nature and environment, the de-personalised / de-territorialized authority.. its turbulent times, but i am not pessimistic nor optimistic about technology. Its just chaotic battle over our bodies, bodies that should be overriden in the future.

o

 


Ulrike Buck

:

Fingertips have become our primary sensorium of perception and communication. We are brain with fingers.


That makes me think that the Octopus is some kind of sensory homunculus,  a neurological map of the digital self.

o







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculuso



There are two types of cortical homunculi: sensory and motor.


The car, of course, is the motor homunculus. Brain in front of screen is like person in car.  We sit, we subtly move our hands and our eyes detect fast movement..


Aleksei Taruts:



Do you think that being connected to anything means being connected even to what has previously been a contradiction?


Ulrike Buck

:

Absolutely. If I only scroll down my facebook bubble, continents, micro and macro, funny animals and war, all next to each other.. nothing is a contradiction.



Both, the car and the octopus are fetishised objects of sexual desire.


o




I chose to use wire glass and work on it like I would be a semi human creature, dropping lines of glue on it, then sandblast it with that industrial machine.  Wire glass was a very common building material in the 80s and 90s, our schools were full of it..  

Cars, aliens, so 90s. Are we being nostalgic?


o

 


Aleksei Taruts:


o



i hope we aren’t nostalgic.

i don’t trust in nostalgia, always thought of it to be repressive. it makes events look hierarchical.


id rather say that we approach contemporaneity as something toxic and neurotic, that makes us miss something we have never experienced


:-D :-D :-D


Ulrike Buck

:

o

The romantic landscape is an expression of the human who recognizes his expulsion from paradise. Only who is separated from nature can have a romantic view on it.


Romance is a cultural expression of detachment.


Do you think that is true?


Aleksei Taruts:


o


I think paradise is hyperreal, almost as the romantic landscapes, which are sort of post-truth. One can see the light sources in the painting, but they don't fit into the physics. Partly hidden, partly revealed, mirrored.






Aleksei Taruts:


i had an argument with some guy at a parking lot a few minutes ago


he had surgical scissors with him


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:58pm


Ulrike Buck


oh that sounds about dangerous


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 3:58pm


Aleksei Taruts


lol


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:58pm


Ulrike Buck


wtf


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 3:58pm


Aleksei Taruts


))


he looked like 45-50


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:58pm


Ulrike Buck


were you scared


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 3:58pm


Aleksei Taruts


but its easy for me to loose temper


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:59pm


Ulrike Buck


so you scared him away


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 3:59pm


Aleksei Taruts


no, i was mad at he's being agressive with no particular reason


no one was scared i guess


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:59pm


Ulrike Buck


ja


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 3:59pm


Aleksei Taruts


just smth happening out of thin air


in seconds


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 3:59pm


Ulrike Buck


typical car agression


gosh yes


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:00pm


Aleksei Taruts


but he was not even involved


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:00pm


Ulrike Buck


well, as you quoted Kittler: transport is the continuation of war in peace time.. people use the vehicle also as a vehicle for their personal cruzades





Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:01pm


Aleksei Taruts


i mean - i accidentally scratched someone, another dude, who said like relax man all good, i dont even see the scratch


and then this second guys comes out of nowhere in an starts to act super agressively towards me


YES


but it was so weird


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:02pm


Ulrike Buck


gosh


recently a 50 year old well dressed guy in a very expensive car wanted to beat me up because I went over a red light.


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:02pm


Aleksei Taruts


also there was a mini cemetery just in a few meters


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:03pm


Ulrike Buck


when he came to my window with the fists up, i opened it and asked very friendly what has happened


he crazily screamed at me and finally ran away.


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:03pm


Aleksei Taruts


whhat omg


as if you have committed a criminal offence


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:03pm


Ulrike Buck


I know , it was stupid to open the door, but also i think it kind of disarmed him.


he screamed that he had taken photographs and that he is giving them to the police


it was absurd


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:04pm


Aleksei Taruts


was it in Berlin?


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:04pm


Ulrike Buck


yes


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:04pm


Aleksei Taruts


ahahah


omg


which neighborhood?


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:04pm


Ulrike Buck


wedding


but that guy looked like a boss, well trained, well dressed, designer glasses etc..


not the ususal agressive look


very disturbing


like american psycho


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:07pm


Aleksei Taruts


should we include that?


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:09pm


Ulrike Buck


yes


i think we can copy paste quite some episodes


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:09pm


Aleksei Taruts


yes that makes sense



o




Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:09pm


Ulrike Buck


the car window I a real barrier between universes


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:16pm


Aleksei Taruts


and people shout at each other from their moving vehicles, somehow its become a normal behaviour.. i have realized that Carpenter's The Thing is an all male actors cast, that is stuck in the middle of the arctic with a space mutant among them. this mutant has memory of an each creature it had ever imitated. Carpenter sees it as an apocalypse, but that could be just evolution



o




Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:18pm


Aleksei Taruts


the most fun thing about The Thing, is that is doesnt have a fixed form of representation


and also - when it imitates human behaviour, body language, reactions it somehow supresses the morals - not to kill, for instance


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:20pm


Ulrike Buck


i have not seen that


sounds scary, kind of like nano bot slime


creepy formless being


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:21pm


Aleksei Taruts


well its creepy from our point of view, its just fighting for survival


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:21pm


Ulrike Buck


but in an expansive predator kind of way


like humanity ))




1/3, 4:40pm


Ulrike Buck


why did you invite me for the show actually?


I mean what did you think about


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:42pm


Aleksei Taruts


intuition


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:42pm


Ulrike Buck


)


Aleksei Taruts


1/3, 4:44pm


Aleksei Taruts


i mean i dont have any specific crititcally argumented answer to that question, it s based on what i feel, mostly. Of course i know what are you interested in, also some conversation we had, also maybe near same birth year


Ulrike Buck


1/3, 4:45pm


Ulrike Buck


I felt so, too. we talked about interesting stuff








Aleksei Taruts


outside is -24


Ulrike Buck


6:24pm


Ulrike Buck


Ulrike Buck


6:24pm


Ulrike Buck


here is ok


o


sorry


Aleksei Taruts


6:25pm


Aleksei Taruts


whow


))


where are you?


Ulrike Buck


6:25pm


Ulrike Buck


ostsee


3 hours north of berlin


Aleksei Taruts


6:25pm


Aleksei Taruts


ah ok


nice


fresh air


Ulrike Buck


6:26pm


Ulrike Buck


yes


its very quiet


and they have floor heating


Aleksei Taruts


6:26pm


Aleksei Taruts


de-lux


Ulrike Buck


6:29pm


Ulrike Buck


minus 24 , dear


thats harsh


Aleksei Taruts


6:31pm


Aleksei Taruts


its only for these 3 days


next week back to -2


Ulrike Buck


6:33pm


Ulrike Buck


Ok






its gonna be a tough work for translation

(i mean the dialogue)

its gonna be translated as well?

o

yep

ha

o

YES


i dont know how theyre going to manage

but i love the text


yes, very

they also have to translate sandras text, also not super easy

just got the corrections from NYC.. omg haha so international

o

))

have a good night, tomorrow noon all there

o

great great

good night to you too


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we are thinking how to better translate "suspension" to russian

Ulrike

what is the option

Марина

is it just something hanging in the air you mean?

or a state?

Ulrike

yes, it hangs or hovers

it is the state of hanging / flying / hovering

Марина

ok

Ulrike


o

Марина

pfffffffffff

Ulrike

more translation versions down there

Марина

it's: http://get-fish.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/skolzyaschiy-poplavok.jpg

Ulrike

It is the charme of the past

Марина

it's all verbs

but  thanks!

Ulrike

подвеска

hm, it is not obvious

i did not want to call it mobile

Марина

подвеска - it's a necklace

Ulrike

hahaha

can you just not translate it?

it is a latin word

Марина

yes

and no good russian word for it(

Ulrike

it is like being in limbo

suspensio in latin

in an indefinite state

Марина

"indefinite state" - we have it as an idiom

but i thought that that is not what we are talking about

Ulrike

suspension has both meanings

so maybe it is the only word

if you hover between two states.. it is indefinite

Марина

подвешенное состояние

indefinite state

literally

Ulrike

maybe that is good

yes

Марина

if it's ok with you

and you mean it

we can translate it like this


Ulrike

Can we add this conversation to the booklet please

to the end of the one with aleksei.. :-))))

Марина

ok!

Ulrike

i like that suspension has both meanings, a technical one and a more philosophic one

but if its only the more philosophic it is ok

 

Ulrike Buck
Bauhaus OctopusX
//
Aleksei Taruts
No Human Grace

24.01.2017 — 05.02.2017
curated by Marina Bobyleva

Triumph Gallery Moscow